The hosts of the podcast Comic Book Couples Counseling, Brad and Lisa Gullickson, join the show to chat about the story behind their show and their first work in comics. The team discusses their busy October, work/life balance, the role of stories in their lives, how their different vibes work, the development of Comic Book Couples Counseling, editing’s impact, the couples counseling side of the podcast, their lean into interviews, figuring out which direction to take, programming the show, imposter syndrome, their improvements as podcasters, the upcoming Pots & Panels anthology, their comic in it, how collaborating has affected their relationship, their relationship with comics, and more.

You can find Brad and Lisa on Twitter and their podcast, Comic Book Couples Counseling, on Twitter and Instagram, as well as all the usual podcasting hot spots like Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can find their work in the upcoming Pots & Panels comics anthology and the upcoming comics criticism newspaper The Comics Courier, both of which will soon be Kickstarted.

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Big thanks to Deanna Chapman for stepping in to edit this episode. If it sounds better than usual, it’s because of her.

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Header photo is from the podcast logo for Comic Book Couples Counseling. Off Panel’s opening theme music is Vulfpeck’s “Outro,” used with permission from the band (and thanks from me for them doing so!), with the rest of the music being an original track by custom music agency Upright T-Rex Music, written and performed specifically for the podcast. A huge thanks to Ross and Cody from Upright T-Rex Music for putting the track together!