On the return episode of Off Panel, The Ringer’s Jason Concepcion joins the show to talk about the pros and cons of the latest DC Entertainment movie – Suicide Squad. They talk how the movie reflects David Ayer’s world view, its perceived badness versus actual badness, Jared Leto’s Joker performance, where DC’s movie universe stands, the potential impact of Geoff Johns on it, the movie’s troubled development, Zack Snyder, buying or selling DC’s film future, why Marvel excels at movies while DC struggles, Marvel vs. DC in fandom, before ending with five random questions about Overwatch, the Knicks and more.

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Header image is from Suicide Squad. Intro and outro music is Vulfpeck’s Outro from their album Vollmilch. Thanks to the band for letting me use the track